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Meet Joshua, a perpetual seeker of fulfillment, who wandered through an array of odd jobs, searching for purpose. Despite the uncertainty, one constant remained—his love for fitness. In the gym, he found solace, a sanctuary where his passion thrived. Joshua took a leap of faith, transitioning into a career as a personal trainer. Guiding others toward their fitness goals became his calling.
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46.000] Hey, all.
[
46.600] This is Elyse Robinson with Nobody Wants to Work, No.
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48.310] Podcast.
[
49.530] Today, we have Joshua Bunchard.
[
52.490] And go ahead and introduce yourself, Joshua.
[
55.410] Hello. How are you doing?
[
56.560] Thank you, Elyse, for allowing me to introduce myself.
[
58.950] My name is Joshua Banshaad, and I’m grateful for this opportunity
[
01:04.470] to share why I’ve changed over to what I’ve…
[
01:07.730] From one career to another.
[
01:09.880] And I’m actually deep diving in my purpose, and I’ll share that here.
[
01:16.680] Yes, I’m a real believer of walking in your purpose.
[
01:20.440] Absolutely.
[
01:21.570] So what did you want to be when you grew up?
[
01:26.210] Or then, grown up? Yeah.
[
01:28.520] So growing up, honestly,
[
01:31.690] when my stepdad was alive, God rest and so I thought about being a plumber.
[
01:36.170] And later on, as I got older, that idea faded away and
[
01:45.090] I ended up getting into personal training because I fell in love with fitness
[
01:48.960] and wanting to help people become healthier versions of themselves.
[
01:55.000] I’m curious, though, why did you not want to be a plumber?
[
01:58.200] Because when I was a kid, I wanted to be a vet.
[
02:00.440] But I’m trying to sit here and think why I didn’t want…
[
02:02.040] Oh, why I didn’t want to be a vet anymore?
[
02:03.440] Because I learned that they had to go to school for 15 years.
[
02:05.790] And I’m like, That is going to work for me.
[
02:08.850] Well, I’ve always been very active.
[
02:11.570] So with me being very active and becoming
[
02:14.150] a personal trainer I’m helping others become a little bit more active and get
[
02:18.130] some energy back that they may have lost from being out of shape and unhealthy.
[
02:22.570] So that was more interesting to me. Got you.
[
02:27.320] You got to burn up the energy.
[
02:28.570] Okay, I see.
[
02:30.410] All right, so where did your career begin?
[
02:33.890] What was your very first career before you got the personal training?
[
02:38.530] Before I bounced around.
[
02:41.830] I never had a career.
[
02:43.040] I became a personal trainer.
[
02:44.350] I’ll Honest, my background is a lot of street, unfortunately.
[
02:53.410] But I learned a lot, and I’m still here and alive and well,
[
02:56.970] and again, able to walk in my purpose, which I’m very I’m grateful for.
[
03:01.410] That’s where my path really entailed.
[
03:05.320] Okay.
[
03:08.320] And what was the catalyst that made you want to become a personal trainer?
[
03:11.230] Did you have this thought of becoming a personal trainer when you were a kid or
[
03:17.170] something happened that made you want to become a personal trainer?
[
03:21.130] Being around people that looked unhealthy and never being a person that made fun
[
03:28.750] of overweight people, but look at them as a way, how can I help them?
[
03:32.410] Because I love people.
[
03:35.840] Again, I was always working on training
[
03:38.550] in the gym, and I chose to make a career out of it so
[
03:42.030] I could get paid to help people get healthy.
[
03:46.240] That’s funny because as an entrepreneur, and you hear people talk about, Don’t
[
03:54.640] make your love or your passion into a
[
03:59.790] career because you end up hating it.
[
04:07.410] Do you hate it at any point in time?
[
04:11.710] I mean, did you think about that?
[
04:14.450] I don’t think The thing with it is because I love it, it doesn’t feel like work.
[
04:22.320] I don’t know because I run into that a lot of times as I’m an entrepreneur.
[
04:31.360] One thing that I created during COVID was a tech freebie website.
[
04:38.800] I launched it.
[
04:41.300] I got my first customer, literally the first day it launched.
[
04:47.320] I made it to help myself.
[
04:50.000] Then somebody I knew was like, You should make money off of it.
[
04:53.000] I was like, Okay, well, shoot. Yeah.
[
04:55.040] Then once I got into doing it, every day,
[
04:58.630] once a week or whatever, I started to hate it.
[
05:03.080] I’m like, This is work, but maybe I don’t like the work.
[
05:07.190] Maybe that’s the problem.
[
05:08.510] It could be it.
[
05:11.890] I’m not going to say that.
[
05:15.330] I’m supposed to be rich.
[
05:19.040] Let me see.
[
05:23.210] All things come at a cost.
[
05:25.920] What did it cost you along the way?
[
05:27.790] Not just as in price, Do you have any certifications?
[
05:32.570] Did your family think you were crazy trying to become a personal trainer
[
05:36.910] because you don’t have big muscles or whatever?
[
05:43.600] No, I mean, I think there is always a cost.
[
05:49.350] There’s an investing.
[
05:51.480] I went from getting several certifications
[
05:54.850] and studying intensely because I needed that.
[
05:59.600] In order to pass. I’m not the easy.
[
06:01.320] I’m not the one that retains well.
[
06:02.440] So there was a whole lot of highlighting,
[
06:04.210] tutoring, and taking tests several times, and then finally passing.
[
06:10.170] And then being able to humble myself knowing that I’m not going to get paid
[
06:14.670] faith, nor should I deserve to at a good rate in the beginning.
[
06:20.850] So that was a little bit of a struggle for a short period of time.
[
06:27.330] So, yeah, getting paid minimum wage.
[
06:30.910] I mean, not just minimum wage, it was more so like a sales.
[
06:34.730] You’re getting bait.
[
06:36.330] When you’re starting off in the gym as
[
06:39.790] a personal trainer, as a newbie in that field, you’re
[
06:43.480] not getting a wage, but you’re also not getting clients.
[
06:47.040] And getting clients is the only way
[
06:48.720] to make money because it’s based off commission.
[
06:51.040] You get a percentage off of each client that you do get.
[
06:54.170] So that was definitely a sacrifice.
[
06:59.040] And getting up early in the morning
[
07:00.790] to repeat that day, which would start at 5:00 AM
[
07:07.570] and maybe end at 6:00, 7:00 PM and then repeat that.
[
07:11.640] Hoping for a better day the next day.
[
07:13.030] But I learned a lot.
[
07:16.360] Yeah.
[
07:17.770] No, I don’t miss those days.
[
07:22.040] Don’t miss them at all.
[
07:23.670] I remember those days.
[
07:26.970] But you have to put the work in in order to get to where you are.
[
07:30.630] I tell people that all the time, especially the young people.
[
07:35.360] I don’t know what’s up with these young
[
07:36.270] people that think that they don’t have to put in no work.
[
07:39.320] Then they have this idea in their head that work is supposed to be fun.
[
07:42.640] I’m like, Work ain’t necessarily supposed to be fun.
[
07:45.210] There’s a very small percentage of people
[
07:47.540] where they get to live out the funness of work.
[
07:52.970] But I say most people just never get that.
[
07:57.130] The whole definition of work is a negative connotation with it.
[
08:01.480] Where do you get off that work is supposed to be fun?
[
08:05.210] They complain about stupid things.
[
08:07.730] They’re not being sexually harassed.
[
08:09.690] It’s not racial discrimination or gender discrimination or something like that.
[
08:14.330] But they’re, Oh, well, I don’t have any passion for it.
[
08:19.150] I’m like, But you…
[
08:21.800] So I’m confused.
[
08:25.480] It’s different.
[
08:30.000] But my whole idea of work is so I can live a certain lifestyle,
[
08:38.250] and then outside of work, I can pursue the things that I actually love.
[
08:43.320] I don’t want my job stress in me, and my lifestyle has to be good.
[
08:49.610] That’s why I’m an accountant because it meshes with my lifestyle.
[
08:55.560] I don’t really care for accounting 99.
[
08:58.670] 9% of time, but it pays me bills.
[
09:05.720] Let me see what else.
[
09:07.190] Let’s see.
[
09:09.970] You said that you did other things.
[
09:12.650] What was the process on switching to being a personal trainer?
[
09:18.150] Because I understand that sales is a big thing.
[
09:23.050] What type of certifications did you get?
[
09:25.850] How did you get someone to take a chance
[
09:28.990] on you and say, Hey, can I be a personal trainer at your gym?
[
09:35.800] Yeah.
[
09:37.640] And how did you get someone to take a chance on you?
[
09:41.600] Well, to get there,
[
09:43.470] I had to work all the nends as far as jobs to make sure that those are
[
09:48.310] getting paid in the meantime because I wasn’t living with my parents any longer.
[
09:53.190] So that waiting on commission,
[
09:57.600] money still had to come from somewhere while doing that.
[
10:00.700] But as far as getting a chance,
[
10:04.080] I looked around for low-wing gyms that would just give me an opportunity.
[
10:10.770] And I’ve always been in good shape.
[
10:12.610] So that helped.
[
10:14.130] Did you want to look to Park, too?
[
10:15.880] And that was always a big deal to me being
[
10:17.760] professional, being in great shape and being
[
10:19.430] knowledgeable, having experience in those areas.
[
10:23.560] And as far as certifications, I got a national certification,
[
10:27.700] and then I also I also got a certification in nutrition,
[
10:35.400] got another one in group training, and then the rest of it really just came
[
10:38.750] with experience because the certifications don’t give you experience.
[
10:43.250] They give you insight and knowledge on how
[
10:46.190] to move the body a certain way, especially in the time.
[
10:50.390] Because every individual client is very unique.
[
10:54.030] So whether they have an injury or they’re trying to gain muscle,
[
10:58.440] but they already have muscle, they want more or they want to lose fat.
[
11:01.680] It could be dealing with a woman that just
[
11:03.670] had a baby four, five, six months out from having a baby.
[
11:08.150] So it’s always different dealing with ages as well.
[
11:13.040] I never trained teenagers or anything like athletes.
[
11:15.150] I always train men.
[
11:17.350] I’m 46 now, but I’ve always trained men really close to my age.
[
11:22.070] So I was always training men older than me when I was in my 30s.
[
11:29.920] Let’s see.
[
11:30.970] Yeah, I did physical therapy.
[
11:35.720] What year is it? 2022.
[
11:38.510] I did six months of physical therapy because I have tons and tons of injuries.
[
11:45.520] You do? I did.
[
11:47.210] What? Huh?
[
11:49.250] Played sports?
[
11:50.490] No, I never played sports. No.
[
11:52.770] No? No.
[
11:55.080] One doctor told me that I have hypermobility.
[
12:00.050] So my phalanges and stuff move too much.
[
12:06.640] Yoga.
[
12:08.170] When I was a kid, I never did any of that stuff because I
[
12:14.430] was always scared that I was going to hurt myself,
[
12:17.770] which I guess as an adult, it probably was good that I never did any of that stuff.
[
12:23.190] I never did too much.
[
12:25.330] But yeah, no, I did six months of physical therapy And I loved it.
[
12:30.830] I love water aerobics, but that’s my thing.
[
12:40.130] Water aerobics are good. Great.
[
12:42.480] Yeah, you’re just floating.
[
12:43.750] So there’s really no way to really hurt
[
12:46.910] yourself because I’m always scared of that.
[
12:49.250] But what are some positives and what
[
12:57.510] are some negatives of your career? How’s it?
[
13:01.950] This goes on.
[
13:04.850] Changing lives for the long haul definitely is the number one positive.
[
13:12.930] Negatives are I mean, it’s a grind, especially in the beginning for a while.
[
13:21.010] It took me…
[
13:23.360] It got me to a place where I need to make a decision.
[
13:25.400] Am I going to keep training in gyms?
[
13:26.680] Am I going to get my own gym?
[
13:27.710] Am I going to try and scale my own gym,
[
13:31.710] start hiring, get a gym and hire some clients, some other trainers.
[
13:37.120] So that’s probably more of the negative
[
13:41.190] because at one point, you need to make a decision.
[
13:44.050] If you find yourself Training your life away.
[
13:47.130] And it was hard.
[
13:48.970] It was difficult at times just trying to have some time for myself
[
13:52.580] or even have time for me to go to the gym because I’m up at 5:00 and I get a little
[
13:57.270] break, like early afternoon time, and then I’m back training again because
[
14:02.050] you get the next wave of clients that will come in and be getting out of work.
[
14:07.730] And then you’re training them all until the evening.
[
14:12.080] And that is over and over and over.
[
14:13.950] I I get a Sunday off, but Saturdays can be a day where there’s a lot going on.
[
14:18.670] Then you need to write programs and update or update programs, create new ones.
[
14:25.290] So what was your decision?
[
14:27.070] Money is always there.
[
14:28.650] The money’s I was there.
[
14:31.130] But then you can only make a certain amount of money.
[
14:34.040] That’s some child. How much am I going to charge a client?
[
14:38.800] I can only charge a client so much to where it makes sense.
[
14:42.970] And then the other thing is if you’re not
[
14:46.310] training a client, you’re not making money.
[
14:48.570] I can get the money ahead of time,
[
14:50.600] but if I’m not in front of you, I’m not making that money.
[
14:53.430] And at some point, I need to get in front of you physically.
[
14:58.360] No.
[
14:59.290] If someone cancels, you still get money, right?
[
15:03.490] Yeah, you got to hope on a cancel.
[
15:06.130] Where I’m from, it snows.
[
15:13.330] So we’re used to the snow.
[
15:14.640] It’s not like it snows. It’s too cold.
[
15:16.580] I’m not coming out to meet you at the gym.
[
15:19.170] I’m like, We’re used to that.
[
15:20.710] Bundle up when we go. Yeah.
[
15:22.610] No.
[
15:23.430] I’ll call a cancel if it’s a little drip drop of rain outside.
[
15:26.790] I’m not coming.
[
15:29.920] I’m not coming out.
[
15:32.430] It could be 85 degrees.
[
15:33.710] I’m not coming out.
[
15:38.440] So what was your decision?
[
15:40.230] Did you open up a gym or did you- I never opened up a gym.
[
15:43.790] I would just I would run around.
[
15:45.830] As you know, we have a train back home in Boston.
[
15:49.050] So I would go to
[
15:54.960] these luxury apartment complexes where there was already gyms
[
16:00.000] in the bottom, and then you had the apartments up top.
[
16:02.520] And I’d meet people,
[
16:03.480] they’d come off the elevator, out of the apartment, whatever,
[
16:05.520] and then I’d meet them right in the gym and then take off, go to the next one.
[
16:08.810] And that’s what I did for a while.
[
16:11.960] And I forgot about COVID.
[
16:13.730] When COVID came, I lost all my clients,
[
16:17.520] and that’s when I had to make a decision of what I was going to do.
[
16:20.150] But I was already leaning into it online training.
[
16:23.080] And so I became an online trainer.
[
16:25.520] I bought into this program that taught me how to use this particular software where
[
16:29.470] you can create programs, tons of videos on it.
[
16:32.670] I put them together,
[
16:33.970] and then I deliver that through an app, and I still have it to this day.
[
16:40.520] So now at that point, clients can now train on their own.
[
16:45.610] I create a program, I send it to them, I put it on their calendar,
[
16:49.730] and they go right into my app on that particular day and looking
[
16:53.230] at whatever they’re doing for that day, whether it be legs or
[
16:57.120] chest or some upper body workout, high intensity, whatever I
[
17:02.930] decided to design their program or however I decided to design it.
[
17:09.160] That’s nice. So what’s the name of the app?
[
17:12.080] It’s Silverback Fit, like the gorilla.
[
17:14.970] Silverback fit.
[
17:16.320] Silverback fit?
[
17:17.390] Okay.
[
17:20.400] I train mostly men.
[
17:22.550] I trained women in the beginning, and I chose to get away from that.
[
17:28.170] Why?
[
17:29.560] I just- put you on the spot.
[
17:32.930] Yeah, it’s not.
[
17:35.310] I had some relations early in the beginning until I realized
[
17:39.080] that the money wasn’t going to be made if I took that route.
[
17:41.230] And that was part of me being a mature.
[
17:43.320] But then also because I connect very well with women.
[
17:45.560] So sometimes sessions were turned into
[
17:47.960] a stressed-out crying session because they’re going through it.
[
17:50.890] I trained different people in stressed-out jobs, especially in the city in Boston.
[
17:56.560] There’s a lot of stress.
[
17:57.890] It’s a fast-paced city, and
[
18:00.280] The money might come with it, but the stress comes with it times 10 as well.
[
18:05.230] And then sometimes people just can’t handle that.
[
18:07.690] A trainer can sometimes be a client’s
[
18:10.350] therapist at times, and it ends up being like, All right, we need to work out.
[
18:15.160] We’ve been crying for a half hour.
[
18:16.710] We’ve been talking for another 15.
[
18:18.600] You have 15 minutes left on this hour.
[
18:20.390] What do you want to do?
[
18:23.000] So with men, it’s not so much about being a little bit
[
18:28.950] more rough or like a drill sergeant, but I can shut it down.
[
18:32.560] And a lot of times, men want to get out of it.
[
18:34.550] They want to get home from work and just get right to it.
[
18:37.650] I’m not going to have a man crying on my shoulder.
[
18:41.880] And then first thing in the morning, guys want to just get right to it.
[
18:44.960] Like, Hey, get out of here. Hey, what’s up?
[
18:46.040] Let’s get going.
[
18:46.750] And then we have a different thing about it sometimes when it’s man to man.
[
18:53.440] Got you.
[
18:54.120] No, you’re stereotyping the hell out of women.
[
18:55.670] But I ain’t going to lie, with all my injuries and issues with my
[
19:03.250] body, that’s a soft spot for me, and I will get to crying.
[
19:07.930] I’ll get to crying real quick.
[
19:10.310] We can cry, but at some point, what do we want to do this on another day?
[
19:16.600] I’ll cry and then probably go home.
[
19:22.280] I’ll be back.
[
19:27.560] Because at the end of the day, I’m getting paid for it.
[
19:29.110] So I feel bad.
[
19:32.010] I’m not going to…
[
19:34.070] We’re taking up an hour out of my day,
[
19:36.250] but it’s also your hour, but you’re off to pay for this hour.
[
19:39.800] And if we’re going to cry and be upset
[
19:41.350] and talk about things that’s cool, but I still need to get paid.
[
19:45.730] And we can’t reschedule because you’re having a bad day.
[
19:48.800] You showed up.
[
19:50.080] You didn’t cancel, you showed up.
[
19:51.770] So we got to show up and go and just get it in, get it over with.
[
19:58.800] Oh, yeah. No, definitely.
[
20:00.110] No, I would set a hard line at that.
[
20:02.110] If you show up, I’m getting paid.
[
20:03.870] I don’t care if we’re having a cry session, a talk session, whatever.
[
20:07.390] I’m getting paid.
[
20:11.480] So make sure you put that in your on track.
[
20:15.190] If you show up, and if you don’t cancel, I’m still going to get paid.
[
20:20.010] That’s one thing I don’t play with in business is I’m going to give me money.
[
20:28.080] But Let’s see. I guess that would be some
[
20:32.990] of the negatives is having to be someone’s counselor all the damn time.
[
20:41.160] I know how that can get old.
[
20:43.970] Let’s see.
[
20:46.000] What are some traits that would make someone a great personal trainer?
[
20:53.320] Having the ability to meet them where they’re at.
[
20:59.400] Maybe Let me say, finding common ground.
[
21:04.080] Finding common ground and being able to just…
[
21:06.040] You got to be able to build a relationship.
[
21:08.530] I’ve seen trainers, which I knew I had the advantage over,
[
21:11.800] but I’ve seen trainers where It’s like straight face, leaning on a machine.
[
21:19.640] The whole time you have a client training,
[
21:21.520] I see them leaning, looking at their watch, looking at their phone.
[
21:23.960] I’m like, all of that.
[
21:24.990] If I’m a client, you’re getting fired.
[
21:27.360] I catch you doing that one time.
[
21:28.710] You’re not here to engage with me, motivate me, push me.
[
21:33.170] I’m tired and getting ready for work.
[
21:35.970] Let me get this momentum going or I just get out of work.
[
21:38.840] I had a long day.
[
21:39.470] I need to get a good workout, and I’m not here to just drag along.
[
21:44.030] And meeting them where they’re at, too, again.
[
21:47.190] So it’s like, for me, energy is going to change,
[
21:51.070] but the effort doesn’t, meaning it’s not a nervous thing for me.
[
21:54.810] I might not be able to
[
21:58.720] get as many As much of an ab workout, the ab workout won’t be as intense maybe
[
22:06.110] as it was last Wednesday, but my effort is always going to be there.
[
22:11.250] So I’m still going to get results.
[
22:13.440] I’m not going to, Okay, I got 12.
[
22:15.030] No, That 12 rep, I really felt that.
[
22:19.320] So that’s just the thing right there.
[
22:21.710] You got to recognize being able to recognize where that client
[
22:24.910] is for that day and for that particular session.
[
22:28.120] So that’s what it is.
[
22:29.250] Meeting them where they’re at and building good relationship.
[
22:34.400] Communication.
[
22:37.440] What are some tips and tricks you would
[
22:40.830] give someone that wanted to be a personal trainer?
[
22:43.800] Is there any shortcuts they can take?
[
22:45.230] Start early in life instead of starting in their 40s?
[
22:52.890] Somebody wants to start in their 40s?
[
22:54.790] You always want to, for one, get a certification.
[
23:00.320] And get a lot of repetition as far as starting to train.
[
23:05.810] When you’re first, clients should be friends of yours that you can practice on.
[
23:14.520] Bringing them to your house if you have
[
23:16.430] a gym in the garage or going to the gym with them.
[
23:19.930] That’s a good thing.
[
23:21.310] And having confidence in yourself, having belief in yourself,
[
23:24.720] knowing what you’re doing, pay attention to what you’re doing,
[
23:27.450] knowing how to correct somebody’s form and understand that.
[
23:31.990] Because what you don’t want
[
23:34.120] more than anything else is somebody getting hurt while you’re training them.
[
23:42.760] What did you wish you knew before you started this career?
[
23:51.040] That I wish I knew.
[
23:54.880] I would say the business side of things.
[
23:59.800] Yeah, I would say the business side
[
24:01.750] of things, learning more about getting like an LLC
[
24:06.530] and being able to tie all of that in and getting into tax write offs
[
24:11.190] and understanding the business side of it, the the Panua side of it.
[
24:16.170] I did think so much on the fly, taking cash, literally.
[
24:20.490] If I could go back all over and start all
[
24:25.550] over, I would treat it just as a business should be treated on the books,
[
24:32.480] get a LOC, and be consistent in that way, being better with money.
[
24:41.600] Just treat it like a business.
[
24:44.000] Don’t treat it like a hobby.
[
24:45.120] I’m going to the gym today, train somebody.
[
24:46.990] I had that mentality sometime because clients came to me.
[
24:51.200] It was easy for me because it was home for one.
[
24:53.510] It’s not that I always train people I knew, but you get a lot of clients based
[
24:57.950] off of referrals at some point when you’re doing it for a long period of time.
[
25:04.880] I think a lot of people struggle
[
25:07.590] with the business side, and that’s one of the reasons why I studied accounting.
[
25:12.430] I took the first accounting class three
[
25:16.270] times before I was like, and I would drop it and be like, I didn’t want to do it.
[
25:22.960] I took it three times before I buckled down and be like, Hey, get it done.
[
25:27.730] Then once I started getting into tax
[
25:30.690] and audit and things like that, I started to like it.
[
25:34.970] But that has served me well because accounting is the language of business.
[
25:43.770] Everybody wants to know what comes in,
[
25:46.350] what comes out, and then tax is a huge one.
[
25:48.910] With the same.
[
25:50.290] The only thing guarantee in life is death and taxes.
[
25:53.960] I tell people all the time, at least, at least, to take an intro to business class.
[
26:02.320] Now we have YouTube and Cocera and all
[
26:06.230] these other places, Udemy, where you can take stuff for free.
[
26:10.770] So there’s really no reason because they didn’t have all that when I was
[
26:15.120] a kid, and they surely didn’t have it when you were.
[
26:21.560] But I’m showing my age.
[
26:25.050] But I told me, Well, at least if you’re going to start
[
26:28.320] a business, at least take a little intro to in this class, please.
[
26:31.450] But outside of that, let’s see.
[
26:39.400] Yeah, and last question is,
[
26:41.350] what would you tell someone that wanted to start this career?
[
26:47.960] Be ready.
[
26:50.120] Bring your energy.
[
26:51.810] Be ready for the grind.
[
26:54.320] Take care of your body and make sure that you have some Make
[
27:02.320] sure that you have either some money put away already or you already have a job
[
27:06.830] that can pay you the bills and that you don’t burn yourself out.
[
27:10.880] Because what’s going to happen is if you do have a job that’s paying the bills
[
27:13.790] and now you’re trying to squeeze in this new training career, you need time.
[
27:18.010] It’s going to conflict.
[
27:19.930] You can’t work a third shift regular job and get out at…
[
27:24.600] When would that?
[
27:26.680] Yeah, then get out at, I don’t know, 6:00 in the morning from in that third
[
27:30.350] shift job and think that you’re going to train clients that need you to be there
[
27:34.810] early in the morning and think that you can continue that.
[
27:39.210] So you need to find a balance.
[
27:40.890] You need to find a balance and find it quick.
[
27:43.120] I would say start off with some savings, maybe three, four, five months,
[
27:48.210] even six months worth of some bills, bill money already put away
[
27:53.960] and then jump into it because you’re not going to make money right away.
[
27:56.770] And I realized that in the beginning,
[
28:00.120] Real quick, actually, that just because I have this reputable,
[
28:07.450] highly recognized certification, doesn’t mean I’m going to put that down
[
28:11.430] on the counter or at an interview at a gym and say, okay, They give me my money.
[
28:16.490] They don’t even know me.
[
28:18.080] They don’t know me from a hole in a wall, so I got to show and prove.
[
28:20.160] It don’t matter regardless of what you’re doing in life, you get a certification
[
28:23.310] in anything or a degree in something, you still have to show and prove.
[
28:27.050] I thought about being a cook years ago, and And it was like, you’ll literally come
[
28:31.870] out of a culinary school and you might be prepping,
[
28:35.520] you might even be just helping out around the kitchen, helping out the chef.
[
28:39.230] You’re not going to just jump in and start
[
28:41.670] grabbing on, like grabbing this bull by the horns right away.
[
28:45.670] You need to earn that spot.
[
28:48.280] So be ready.
[
28:49.600] Be ready for the grind and be ready to not get paid right away.
[
28:54.600] You mentioned show and prove.
[
28:56.400] What does that mean exactly when it comes to personal training?
[
28:59.440] When you went to, I’m just going to name
[
29:01.310] a gym, Planet Fitness or something like that.
[
29:04.490] What did they ask you to do in order to keep your spot instead of giving it to Mr.
[
29:11.030] Willy down the street? Repetition.
[
29:13.480] You need to build a reputation for yourself.
[
29:15.230] Your reputation needs to come with getting clients’ results.
[
29:23.480] Putting that together, like having a portfolio
[
29:27.570] as you train clients, have clients that We’re not shy in taking
[
29:31.020] before and after pictures for you because that’s going to be a big deal.
[
29:34.600] That’s going to help out a lot.
[
29:37.510] Recommend referrals.
[
29:41.000] But yeah, you definitely need to…
[
29:43.430] You need to build a reputation.
[
29:46.320] Okay.
[
29:47.760] Yeah. Patient.
[
29:50.080] When I started my little entrepreneurship journey in Mexico, I
[
29:56.250] came with a substantial amount of money, I guess, especially Especially for Mexico.
[
30:02.720] I couldn’t imagine starting a business
[
30:05.360] in America and having to have savings because there’s no health insurance.
[
30:13.310] You can’t just go to the doctor.
[
30:15.350] Yeah. Yeah.
[
30:17.590] You’re all willy-nilly like you can in Mexico or another country, which is…
[
30:23.440] After I’ve lived in another country, it’s really crazy to me.
[
30:28.450] As someone that has
[
30:30.920] worked in the healthcare industry, and I have family members that work
[
30:34.390] in the healthcare industry, I gripe about it all the time.
[
30:40.720] That alone stifles entrepreneurship in the United States.
[
30:48.800] But yeah, I’ll totally agree that you definitely need some savings if you’re
[
30:53.310] going to pursue probably pretty much anything in life.
[
30:57.170] Sure, that new career, entrepreneurship,
[
30:59.810] whatever, whatever, because unfortunately, it may not work out.
[
31:07.890] Anything else you want to say? No.
[
31:15.570] I think that’s pretty much it.
[
31:20.760] And honestly,
[
31:23.570] if I would say one more thing, because I’m a true believer
[
31:29.720] in And that you can love what you’re doing and make money off of it.
[
31:32.590] So if
[
31:35.730] you really want to do something and you really love whatever that is,
[
31:40.730] have belief in yourself, pursue it, be patient, and definitely don’t give up.
[
31:47.320] And that’s something that’s a part of me
[
31:52.290] that caused a lot of restarting over in so many areas in times of my life.
[
31:59.490] I I say caused a lot of setbacks because
[
32:01.830] I’ve attempted a couple of different things.
[
32:05.880] It’s always a start.
[
32:07.400] You got to start from scratch again. You get to start from scratch again.
[
32:09.280] You get to start from scratch again.
[
32:10.770] Just really know what you want to do and then go all out.
[
32:14.530] Go all out, don’t stop, and believe in yourself.
[
32:20.160] No, definitely.
[
32:20.890] I don’t like to call them setbacks because everything’s a learning lesson.
[
32:25.730] It is.
[
32:27.690] To my point, what I mean is if you’re
[
32:31.490] starting from scratch every single time, it is an experience.
[
32:36.550] But my brother would tell me, Stay in doing one thing.
[
32:43.050] Lock in on this and then stay doing that
[
32:46.210] instead of like, I’m just tired of this after I just invested money and time.
[
32:50.050] Whether it be school, because I was going to be not a therapist, a psychologist.
[
32:56.240] I went to a community school back home in Boston for a little bit working with…
[
32:59.870] I was working with high-risk teens, and then I stopped going to school.
[
33:03.840] And then I was like, What am I going to do now?
[
33:05.310] I thought about being a bobo.
[
33:07.760] And I didn’t pursue that.
[
33:08.950] I should have, could have, whatever I didn’t.
[
33:11.770] And then became a trainer.
[
33:15.720] I see it as you’re trying to figure out
[
33:22.600] what you want to do, which is perfectly fine.
[
33:26.830] And unfortunately, that costs time and it
[
33:30.240] costs money, and you ain’t never going to get it back.
[
33:31.930] But once you find what it is that you want to do,
[
33:37.360] you look back and be like, Oh, it wasn’t really a waste.
[
33:42.210] You were learning along the way because
[
33:45.510] you took everything that you did and you put it in your personal training.
[
33:49.750] I’m a thousand % sure of that.
[
33:52.410] But sometimes you got to do that in order to find where you’re trying be.
[
34:02.970] When I was in Mexico, for the first two years, I
[
34:07.170] told myself I wanted to learn Spanish, but I wasn’t really learning it.
[
34:11.650] I just had to, number one,
[
34:13.670] mourn and number two, just figure out the lay of the land, basically.
[
34:19.970] I’m in this huge city, and I’m finding friends,
[
34:24.390] and learning where to go to the doctor, and all that good stuff.
[
34:31.050] To me, when I was in the thick of it, I was like, damn, you lost two years.
[
34:36.360] And I’m like, no, you don’t have to lose two years because now you know a big-ass
[
34:39.750] city, and you got people you can kick it when you go down there all the time.
[
34:43.950] I have a whole adopted family and everything else now.
[
34:49.390] It’s really crazy.
[
34:53.650] You beat yourself up about it, but in reality, you really shouldn’t.
[
34:59.130] So But yeah, that’s just how I see it.
[
35:03.890] And I agree.
[
35:06.150] I don’t disagree.
[
35:08.200] My thing is it’s really good to just own
[
35:12.710] in on something instead of bouncing around.
[
35:15.590] But yeah, you do.
[
35:16.790] There’s always a positive, and I do the same.
[
35:19.390] I always make sure that I see the positive, the light in that.
[
35:22.910] It wasn’t a dark time, but I always make sure that I look for that positive.
[
35:27.570] And I have a lot of experiences from in that.
[
35:32.320] Yeah, definitely. As long as you’re not hurting yourself or
[
35:35.990] anyone else, I don’t see it as a serious loss.
[
35:41.640] You can get money again.
[
35:45.310] You may not get that time back,
[
35:47.850] but you take that experience and use it probably every day now.
[
35:53.570] Was it really a loss?
[
35:58.850] No, it wasn’t.
[
36:00.050] It’s just your journey.
[
36:02.490] Just your journey.
[
36:03.840] Yeah.
[
36:05.120] All right, Joshua, we’re going to close it out.
[
36:09.200] Thank you for coming on the show.
[
36:12.010] I appreciate it.
[
36:14.450] Tell me, tell people where to find you.
[
36:18.610] So you can find me on Instagram at josh_bashan.
[
36:24.610] The last name is spelled B-A-C-H-A-N-D.
[
36:27.490] It’s the same exact for Facebook.
[
36:31.130] And all my information is in there in my profile and my bio.
[
36:35.370] And look out for my merch.
[
36:37.600] I’m going to be starting that pretty soon.
[
36:39.360] It’s actually in the making right now.
[
36:40.830] I have my logo and everything else, and we’re putting that out.
[
36:44.810] And yeah, just pushing along.
[
36:47.850] So if anybody wants to follow me or learn anything that I have
[
36:51.290] that they can possibly be inspired by or need help in, whatever, let me know.
[
36:59.570] Easy to reach. All right.
[
37:01.720] Thank you, you all for listening, watching wherever you all at.
[
37:05.610] My name is Elise Robinson with Nobody Wants to Work, though, podcast.
[
37:10.130] And until next time..
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Elyse Y. Robinson, an enterprising entrepreneur, is the mastermind behind Taxes and Services, a multifaceted holding company that doubles as her accounting firm. Her ventures encompass an array of innovative projects. One of her key initiatives is Switch Into Tech, a dynamic weekly newsletter that doubles as a platform for advertising monthly career seminars, offering weekly tech-related freebies, and promoting her latest podcast episodes of Nobody Wants To Work Tho. Additionally, Elyse shares her insights through her blog at Data.gal, where she delves into various data-related topics. Elyse’s passions extend beyond her businesses; she is deeply enamored with Mexico, has an insatiable appetite for research, and is dedicated to assisting others in transitioning into technology careers.